Optical Chopper System and Chopper Wheels

Overview
Specs
Pin Diagrams
Operation
Software
Feedback

Key Specifications^a
Chopping Frequency, with Various Blades	4 Hz – 10 kHz
Frequency Drift	<20 ppm/°C
Ext. Reference Compatibility	TTL/CMOS
Frequency Resolution	0.01 Hz (2 Slot Blades) 0.1 Hz (MC1F10HP, Default Blade) 1 Hz (All Other Blades)
External Reference Signal Synchronization
Harmonic	2 to 15X
Subharmonic	1/2 to 1/15X

Please refer to the Specs tab for a complete list of specifications.

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Controller Interface Screenshot

Features

Crystal-Stabilized, Phase-Locked Feedback Loop Suppresses Low Frequency Drift and Phase Jitter
Harmonic, Subharmonic, and Fractional Harmonic Chopping with Sum and Difference Reference Outputs
Microprocessor Controlled
Single- and Dual-Frequency Blades Available
Harmonic Frequency Blades Available for Pump-Probe and Other Nonlinear Experiments
Save and Recall User Setups in Non-Volatile RAM
USB Interface
Control Software Package Included

The MC2000B Optical Chopper is a precision instrument that utilizes advanced features to modulate light from a continuous beam. The controller uses a phase-locked loop (PLL) motor speed control design to precisely maintain the chopping speed and phase relative to a reference signal. An internal, crystal-stabilized, frequency synthesizer provides an accurate and stable reference frequency for stable long-term performance. The MC2000B Chopper offers faster locking times, interface improvements, and a larger selection of blades than our previous-generation MC2000 Optical Chopper.

An optical switch is used to get the reference signal when the chopper blades pass through and interrupt the beam path. The switch incorporates an LED with a wavelength range of 850 nm - 940 nm that is operated at the 15 mA threshold current to minimize light output from the LED.

Unlike conventional, open-loop speed control designs, the PLL speed control circuit also allows the MC2000B chopper to be synchronized to external reference signals, including other MC2000B choppers and reference sources such as DSP lock-in amplifiers. Please see the Operations tab for more details on the MC2000B chopper and its applications.

The MC2000B design features a high quality, rare earth magnet, DC motor. The photo-etched optical chopper wheel blade is made of 0.01" thick blued clock spring steel for high precision. The compact optical head has a wide base for extra stability, and the base is slotted for two 1/4"-20 (M6) mounting screws on 3" (76.2 mm) centers. The mounting slots have a 1.5" (38.1 mm) radius. The interface cable uses circular snap-on Hirose connectors for easy setup.

The MC2000B controller includes a 240 x 128 pixel graphics display for setting and monitoring chopper functionality. All of the functions are accessible through a front panel control knob with turn and push control. Multiple user setups can be easily saved and recalled from non-volatile memory. A USB interface is included as a standard feature for remote PC control of the MC2000B. A software package with a GUI to control the MC2000B is included with each controller and can also be downloaded from the Software tab. The package also supports controlling the MC2000B via programs written in C++ or LabVIEW.

Please Note: The MC2000B should be shielded from stray light sources because light contamination in the optical sensor will cause jitter.

Chopper Blade Specifications^a
Item #	Chopping Frequency	Duty Cycle	Max Phase Jitter (RMS, @ One Blade Rotation)	Slots	Slot Angle
Single and Dual Frequency Blades
MC1F10HP (Included with MC2000B)^b	Inner: 20 Hz – 1 kHz, Outer: 200 Hz – 10 kHz	50%	±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	Inner: 10, Outer: 100	Inner: 36°, Outer: 3.6°
MC1F2^c	4 Hz – 200 Hz	50%	±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	2	180°
MC1F2P10^c	4 Hz – 200 Hz	10%	±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	2	180°
MC1F6P10	12 Hz – 600 Hz	10%	±0.5° (±0.2° Typ.)	6	60°
MC1F10	20 Hz – 1 kHz	50%	±0.3° (±0.2° Typ.)	10	36°
MC1F10A (Adjustable Duty Cycle)^d	20 Hz – 1 kHz	0 - 50% ^d	±0.3° (±0.2° Typ.)	10^d	36° ^d
MC1F15	30 Hz – 1.5 kHz	50%	±0.3° (±0.15° Typ.)	15	24°
MC1F30	60 Hz – 3 kHz		±0.3° (±0.15° Typ.)	30	12°
MC1F60	120 Hz – 6 kHz		±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	60	6°
MC1F100	200 Hz – 10 kHz		±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	100	3.6°
Harmonic Blades
MC2F47	Inner: 8 – 400 Hz Outer: 14 – 700 Hz	50%	±0.5° (±0.2° Typ.)	Inner: 4 Outer: 7	Inner: 90° Outer: 51.4°
MC2F57B	Inner: 10 – 500 Hz Outer: 14 – 700 Hz		±0.5° (±0.2° Typ.)	Inner: 5 Outer: 7	Inner: 72° Outer: 51.4°
MC2F330	Inner: 6 – 300 Hz Outer: 60 Hz – 3 kHz		±0.3° (±0.15° Typ.)	Inner: 3 Outer: 30	Inner: 120° Outer: 12°
MC2F860	Inner: 16 – 800 Hz Outer: 120 Hz – 6 kHz		±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	Inner: 8 Outer: 60	Inner: 45° Outer: 6°
MC2F5360	Inner: 106 Hz – 5.3 kHz Outer: 120 Hz – 6 kHz		±0.2° (±0.1° Typ.)	Inner: 53 Outer: 60	Inner: 6.79° Outer: 6°

The MC1F10HP blade is supplied with the unit. All other blades specified may be purchased separately below.
One MC1F10HP blade is included with each MC2000B(-EC) Optical Chopper System. This high precision blade offers stable frequency chopping with low jitter up to a frequency of 10 kHz. To achieve this, the blade is designed with 100 outer slots for synchronization that can also be used for chopping purposes.
These high precision blades offer stable frequency chopping with low jitter up to a frequency of 200 Hz. To achieve this, each blade is designed with 100 small outer slots for synchronization.
The duty cycle of the MC1F10A 10 slot blade can be adjusted from 0% to 50%.

Optical Head Specifications
Chopping Blade Diameter	Ø4.0" (Ø101.6 mm)
Chopping Blade Thickness	0.010" (0.254 mm)
Mounting Base	1/4"-20 (or M6) Clearance Slots Spaced 3.0" (Compatible with Thorlabs Breadboards)
General Controller Specifications
Frequency Resolution	0.01 Hz (MC1F2 & MC1F2P10 Blades) 0.1 Hz (MC1F10HP Blade) 1 Hz (All Other Blades)
Chopping Range	Harmonic: 2 to 15x Sub-Harmonic: 1/2 to 1/15x
Frequency Drift	<20 ppm/°C
Input and Output Connectors	BNC
Display Type	240 x 124 Pixel LCD
Menu Control	Twist / Push-Button Knob
Input Power Connection^a	IEC Connector
Operating Temperature	10 – 40 °C
Dimensions (W x H x D)	6.05" x 2.88" x 11.54" (153.6 mm x 73.2 mm x 293.1 mm)
Weight	5 lbs (2.3 kg)
Shipped Weight	9.1 lbs (4.1 kg)
Power Supply
Supply Type	Linear
Voltage Selection	115 / 230 VAC Switchable
Input Voltage	100/115 VAC ± 10%, 230 VAC ± 10%
Line Frequency	50 – 60 Hz
Input Power	20 VA Max
Fuse Ratings	250 mA @ 115 VAC, 125 mA @ 230 VAC
Fuse Type	IEC60127-2/III (250 V, Slo-blo Type ‘T’)
Fuse Size	5 x 20 mm

The MC2000B is shipped with a 120 VAC US style power cord and the MC2000B-EC is shipped with a 230 VAC power cord for use in Europe.

Input/Output Specifications
Ext. Input Compatibility	TTL/CMOS
Ext. Input Voltage Range^a	0 – 5 V
Input High	>2 V
Input Low	<0.8 V
Ext. Input Impedance	200 Ω
Ref Out Compatibility	TTL/CMOS
Ref Out Voltage Range^a	0 – 5 V Typical
Ref Out Impedance	200 Ω
Min Load Impedance^b	500 Ω
Ref Out Signals	Inner/Outer Slot Chopping Blade, Synthesizer, Sum & Diff Frequencies
Ref Out Selection	Selectable Menu or USB command ‘O’
Communications
Communications Port	USB
Protocol	USB (RS232 Emulated)
Baud Rate	115,200 (fixed)
Data Bits	8
Stop Bits	1
Parity	None
Handshaking	None

The reference output and external input is short circuit protected by limiting the current to 25 mA. Overvoltage and undervoltage protection is available, but continued use will degrade or damage the unit.
The Min Load Impedance represents the smallest allowable terminating resistance. Applying lower impedances will cause the short circuit protection to limit the output voltage. Continued use in this mode will cause circuit degradation and eventual circuit failure.

Controller Front Panel

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The front panel of the MC2000B offers two female BNC ports, one for an external input and one for the reference output. Pin diagrams for both ports are shown below.

Controller Back Panel

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The back panel of the MC2000B offers a USB 2.0 Type B port and an Optical Head port featuring a HR10A-7R-6P interface connector. Pin diagrams for both ports are shown below. The included cable, with HR10A-7R-6SC ends, plugs into the Optical Head port.

Chopper Head Back Panel

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The chopper head back panel offers an HR10A-7R-6P interface connector. The pin diagram for the interface connnector is shown below. The included cable, with HR10A-7R-6SC ends, connects the chopper head to the back panel of the controller.

External Input

BNC Female

BNC
TTL/CMOS, 200 Ω Input Impedance, 0 - 5 V Input Range

Reference Output

BNC Female

BNC
TTL/CMOS, 200 Ω Output Impedance, 0 - 5 V Input Range, 500 Ω Min Load Impedance

Computer Connection

USB Type B

USB Type A
USB 2.0 Type A to B Cable

Interface Connector

HR10A-7R-6P

6 Pin HRS Connector

Pin	Description	Pin	Description
1	Motor +	4	Feedback Sensor
2	Motor -	5	Phase Sensor
3	VCC	6	Ground

Operation

An optical chopper is an electromechanical instrument that periodically interrupts a beam of light. The MC2000B Optical Chopper is a rotary type composed of a benchtop controller, motor head assembly, and slotted chopper blade/wheel.

Applications

MC2F57B Dual Frequency Blade

For more advanced measurements, the MC2000B can lock to a harmonic, sub-harmonic, or fractional-harmonic of an external reference frequency. The on board microprocessor is used to multiply the external reference up to the 15th harmonic or to divide the reference down to the 15th sub-harmonic. By combining both the frequency multiplication and division together, a fractional harmonic can be obtained.

In order to maximize the slope of the signal as the blade rotates (i.e., minimize the time to fully open or closed), the beam should be focused onto the widest portion of the slot in the chopper blade.

The MC2000B also supports 2-frequency chopping from a single chopper blade (example MC2F57B blade shown at right). We offer five different dual frequency blades (see below or refer to the Specs tab for details). The combination of dual frequency slots on one blade allows a single beam to be split and individually modulated for ratiometric experiments. Another example application is a pump-probe experiment where the pump beam is modulated at the outer frequency while modulating a probe beam at the inner frequency. The MC2000B provides the sum and difference frequencies of each dual frequency blade for accurate lock-in detection of the frequency-mixed response.

Software with GUI for Remote Operation of the MC2000B Chopper Controller

Software

Version 2.0

Software package to control the MC2000B. The installer includes the necessary drivers. This software package is compatible with the lastest firmware for the system and supports writing programs to control the MC2000B using C++ or LabVIEW.

Posted Comments:

sabina.elen (posted 2018-11-16 12:19:20.547)

Hello, I am using controller with chopper MC1F2. I have some questions. 1. What is the phase? is the phase needed to adjust in case of using 1 chopper? 2. I have quite a difficulties with calculating correct frequency. So for example 4Hz is the half cycle (open-blade), am I correct? So that means that if I check the frequency per area it is actually 8Hz (open or blade). Since blades and opening are the same and large do I need to add any other factor/frequency to the final frequency calculations since I measure background light?

xyzhang (posted 2018-10-31 20:30:41.39)

I bought one MC2000B several years ago and synchronized to a 10 kHz ref signal. It was working fine until recently. The ref input frequency showing on the screening is off by 9 - 20 Hz. Instead of 10000 Hz, it shows 100011 or seminar numbers. I changed to different input frequency, just for checking, still saw the same problem. Please help.

dugan (posted 2018-07-31 11:09:11.807)

I am using the MC2000B with the standard MC1F10HP chopper blade to chop a 1 kHz pulse train. Everything works fine at the 1st, 2nd, and 5th subharmonics, but I need to chop at 100 Hz. When I get to the 10th subharmonic, I suddenly cannot control the phase. The display says that I've changed the phase, and the chopper will lock again (albeit slowly), but when I look at the pulse train on a photodiode, the phase has not actually changed. Again, this problem does not occur when chopping down to 200 Hz, only at 100 Hz.

YLohia (posted 2018-09-17 09:44:40.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. We ran this setup under exactly the same conditions and found no issues. For further troubleshooting, we would have to bring this piece in for inspection. I have reached out to you directly to initiate the RMA process.

lhagaman (posted 2018-05-29 12:40:43.25)

Hi, do you have any information of how this chopper wheel might behave in vacuum? Any concerns of overheating or estimates of the outgassing? Thank you.

YLohia (posted 2018-05-29 04:25:57.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. We do not recommend these units for vacuum-based applications since these contain anodized aluminum so outgassing would definitely be an issue. That being said, we have not performed any testing for this product under these conditions since that is not the intended use.

user (posted 2018-05-09 15:24:55.553)

what's the material made of (the chopper wheel)? thanks!

YLohia (posted 2018-05-10 09:28:18.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. These chopper wheels are made of 0.01" thick blue clock spring steel and have a black oxide finish.

a.brash (posted 2018-04-13 16:19:14.723)

We have a slightly older MC2000 controller unit, is there any way that this could be made compatible with the MC1F10A variable duty cycle blade?

YLohia (posted 2018-04-13 01:53:28.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. Please see footnote d on the main product family page for the blades. Unfortunately, this blade is not backwards compatible with the old MC2000 unit.

marco.cammarata (posted 2018-03-30 16:45:54.56)

Hi, I have a kHz beam that I want to chop down to ~100Hz. Unfortunately I do not think MC1F2P10 is an option because if I am not mistaken one needs to provide a reference signal higher that the chopper frequency thus creating a phase uncertainty. Am I right ? The other option: MC1F6P10 can be used with beams smaller than the ~6mm I will be using. Thanks, marco

YLohia (posted 2018-04-04 12:12:22.0)

Hello Marco, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. The MC1F2P10 provides a very stable low frequency chopping of up to 200 Hz. The optical chopper head uses the outer frequency (outer blades) as a reference signal to lock the blade to the frequency generator. Since these outer slots "chop" at a higher frequency, the jitter and phase uncertainty are actually minimized. In addition, this chopper can employ a dual photo-interrupter arrangement to track the phase of the inner slot.

sgreen (posted 2017-11-21 14:56:22.31)

Can I get documentation for this chopper? Including datasheets, manuals, etc, etc. We are researching choppers and are interested in this one, but need to make sure it's exactly what we need. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

nbayconich (posted 2017-12-28 02:36:18.0)

Thank you for contacting Thorlabs. The complete operating manual for the MC2000B chopper system can be downloaded directly from our website under the Document icon. The link below will direct you to the operating manual. https://www.thorlabs.com/_sd.cfm?fileName=TTN102010-D02.pdf&partNumber=MC2000B Additional specifications can be found on our webpage regarding the chopping blade specifications & controller specifications. I will reach out to you directly to discuss your application requirements for this chopper system

user (posted 2016-12-15 17:40:05.81)

Do any of these blades fit the SR540 chopper from Stanford Research Systems?

tfrisch (posted 2016-12-20 10:00:34.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. While we don't have any testing using SR540, I notice that the two systems use a different reference slots, so I would not expect them to be compatible.

meziani (posted 2016-11-22 13:22:18.73)

Hello Dear We are facing a problem with optical chopper MC2000 where some times is locked at 254.2 Hz. If we fix the frequency at 333 Hz, then after a while (1 or 2 hours) goes back to this frequency and remain locked. We need then to restart the chopper and begin again. We do not know if it's from the motor or from the control. Did you face something similar? do you know how we can fix it? Best regards

tfrisch (posted 2016-11-30 08:34:42.0)

Hello, thank you for contacting Thorlabs. I will reach out to you about trouble shooting for the chopper.

mjeong3 (posted 2016-08-10 05:13:13.153)

Would it be possible for me to take the blade off to replace it with a different component? I'm wondering what that small thing on the bottom of the mount is. Is that component an absolute necessitiy when it comes to spinning the chopper?

jlow (posted 2016-08-10 11:53:26.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: You can take off the chopper blade and replace it with one of our other chopper blades for different frequency ranges. The small component at the base of the chopper head is the opto-interrupter, which is used by the controller as feedback to actively measure the actual chopping frequency and make adjustment to the motor speed based on the set chopping frequency. It is necessary for the operation of the optical chopper.

ghjkl0822 (posted 2016-01-11 17:03:02.46)

it's going to slow when chopper frequency below 3hz // we use 2slot mc1f2 mc2000-ec frequency 20hz over it's very good work.

besembeson (posted 2016-01-12 06:11:39.0)

Response from Bweh at Thorlabs USA: I will contact you to get a better understanding of your application and what deviation you see from the expected performance at 3Hz.

m.peccianti (posted 2015-12-17 14:56:18.85)

We are performing a synchronized lock in detection chopping a 1KHz pulsed sources at 500Hz (On - Off modulation). The chopper is set to target 1/2 of the sync frequency of the laser. However if we compare the target output (not the actual) with the 1KHz sync we can clearly see a time jitter within 10-20us scale and with a period within the 0.1-0.2s. This shift create a significant artifact on the lock-in read which is suppose to discriminate a 500Hz phenomenon on a 1KHz carrier. The lock in should be immune to the 1KHZ as it will be coherently averaged out. Instead the jitter appear as an artifact in the reading. It seems that the target is generated from the PLL (and not from a digital division) and the correction coefficient allows for the given fluctuation. We never noticed the problem before, is there a chance our unit is faulty? (but it is also possible we mistaken the effect with other noise sources) Best

besembeson (posted 2015-12-21 05:46:23.0)

Response from Bweh at Thorlabs USA: This seems to be a complex issue, but I suspect phase jitter is coming into play. For us to evaluate this further, we would need to know which optical chopper wheel you use for your application. Since you are located in the UK, I will have our UK Technical Support team follow-up with you. On a related side note, we are also in the process of updating the MC2000 firmware with some fairly significant performance upgrades to stability and locking.

stefan.ringleb (posted 2015-09-02 12:06:46.72)

I just tested the MC-2000 with 2 MC1F2 Blades rotated by 120° to each other. So I got a duty cycle of 1/6 for the copped light. I also could change the phase easily in respect to an input signal. So this works very good. Unfortunately the reference output signal does not have this duty cycle but 1/1. Is it possible to fix this?

joachim.kaiser (posted 2015-05-07 15:52:55.69)

The reference signal of the MC2000 seems to be captured by an optical light barrier watching the blades. Is there the possibility to switch off/disable the light barriers LED by SW to avoid illumination from the LED?

jlow (posted 2015-05-07 01:55:27.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: The LED inside the opto-interrupter is needed for the feedback to determine the actual chopping frequency. We might be able to circumvent this somehow in your setup another way. I will contact you directly about this.

kedves (posted 2014-09-30 19:16:01.433)

Dear Thorlabs, is it possible to use two blades with some phase difference in order to change the open/closed ratio from 1/1 to e.g. 1/9, i.e. to transmit only every 10th pulse from a sequence of 1 kHz? Is your model MC2000 with two MC1F2 blades capable of doing this? It should run at 100 Hz chopping frequency and block the beam 90% of the time. The laser is a femtosecond Ti:sapphire laser with approx. beam diameter of 10 mm. The laser provides a synchronization signal at 1 kHz. Thanks.

cdaly (posted 2014-10-11 04:40:14.0)

Response from Chris at Thorlabs: Yes, it should be possible to vary the duty cycle by using multiple blades. The phase can be controlled and locked relative to an input reference signal. Since the chopper controller can also output a reference signal, one controller can be used as the reference for the second in order to accomplish this.

rajeevkini (posted 2014-08-20 14:48:48.49)

We have a femtosecond laser which emits pulses at 1KHz repetition rate. I am looking for a chopper which can be used to block each alternate pulse. Will MC2000 do that job? Will it be possible to synchronize the chopper to the pulses & run it at 500Hz so that every alternate pulse is blocked. The laser does give a reference signal at 1KHz.

jlow (posted 2014-08-21 10:02:18.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: This is possible with the MC2000. We will contact you directly to discuss more about setting this up.

cdaly (posted 2014-08-07 10:13:33.157)

Response from Chris at Thorlabs: Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, we can quote this as a custom for you. I will contact you to get this started. Future custom requests can be sent directly to us at techsupport@thorlabs.com.

akbariitm (posted 2014-07-24 12:01:02.443)

Can we get quotation for MC2000 with MC2F57 chopper blade?

ronningent (posted 2014-07-14 10:29:11.31)

We are using a MC1000 controller with a MC1F60 blade. At startup, when we select the type of blade installed, the code "b 60" never appears. The code "b 30" appears. Selecting it allows the blade to spin. Is the output frequency still correct even though I am not able to select the correct blade? Should the MC1000 be able to select a 60 slot blade?

cdaly (posted 2014-08-07 04:09:23.0)

Response from Chris at Thorlabs: The MC1000 should work with the 60 slot blade and b60 should appear as a possibility. This is likely a firmware issue. In this case however the device would need be be sent back in for the update. We will contact you directly about this.

mfl (posted 2014-06-07 14:57:57.077)

Dear staff, My name is Ming-Fu Lin from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. We have MC2000 optical chopper. We would like to connect to NI Labview. do you have any specific Labview instruction/example for this device? Thanks a lot. Ming-Fu

jlow (posted 2014-06-11 04:19:59.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: You can do this using serial command. The is outline in Section 6 of the manual. We will contact you directly to provide more information regarding this.

patrick.rymer (posted 2014-03-10 16:11:16.123)

Is it possible to buy custom chopper blades to go with this system? I need customized width of the open sections. Thanks - PR

cdaly (posted 2014-03-11 05:42:21.0)

Response from Chris at Thorlabs: Yes, we have provided custom chopper blades in the past. We will contact you directly to discuss your requirements.

user (posted 2014-02-18 10:39:32.707)

I'm using the MC2000 with the MC1F100 wheel at about 9.6 kHz (external reference), this was working fine but now the motor of the chopper seems damaged (unhealthy noise when it ramps up to high speed, doesn't lock anymore, i guess the bearings of the motor have gone bad). Can i order a replacement for just the motor or chopper part from thorlabs without buying a new controller (I didn't find this on the webpages)?

jlow (posted 2014-02-25 03:59:03.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: We can take the chopper head back for evaluation and repair. Since you did not leave any contact information, can you contact our RMA department (RMA@thorlabs.com) to arrange this please?

saltattam (posted 2014-02-13 17:24:13.143)

Is there a way to see the actual frequency of the disc, and not just a reference signal which may or may not be correct? If I physically stop the disc the reference signal keeps on going. Seems like I should be able to see if it's locked in or not.

jlow (posted 2014-02-14 11:00:21.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: You can see the signal from the blade by selecting "Actual" as the reference out signal. With this setting, the reference out signal is obtained from the feedback sensor reading the outer slots on a chopper wheel.

hfinkenz (posted 2014-01-08 10:47:54.44)

Dear Sir/Madam, if the motor is stopped, does the disc stop in (a) specific position(s)? We would like to run the chopper only at times during the experiment and otherwise have full transmission, without repositioning the chopper. Is there a way to achieve this automatically? Thanks in advance!

jlow (posted 2014-01-09 04:23:39.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: The chopper does not stop at a specific position when the drive signal is removed.

user (posted 2013-08-17 19:24:53.73)

Is there a way to use 20X harmonics? My external ref is 10Hz, I want the MC1F10 blade (NOT other blades) to work at 200Hz. Thank you.

tcohen (posted 2013-08-22 14:58:00.0)

Response from Tim at Thorlabs: Thank you for contacting us. You can run the MC1F10 at 200Hz using the internal reference, but if using an external reference, the current edition of the MC2000 accepts harmonic values up to a maximum of 15X.

esquin (posted 2013-07-31 16:07:04.18)

We are looking for a possibility to modulate the intensity of a monchromatic light source by 10% to 20%. This modulation does not mean to turn on/off completely the light but a relatively small modulation. The reason is that the system relaxes on time and we cannot just turn off completely the light even for a small amount of time. It is not clear to me whether a chooper system can do exactly that upon blade. Can you send me information whether this is possible? Thank you in advance.

jlow (posted 2013-08-01 16:27:00.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: We will get in contact with you to discuss about your application and discuss the different possibility on achieving this.

pseudotexan (posted 2013-06-05 11:18:19.027)

I am getting a strange problem with my chopper unit. I am using the standard 10-slot blade at 300 Hz, internally referenced. Sometimes, the blade will stop spinning, reverse direction, and then start spinning at about 260 Hz, consistently with about a 40 Hz offset for no reason. It also makes a high-pitched whine. It is unable to lock back on to the desired frequency. Sometimes, I can temporarily solve the problem by re-seating the cable to the blade housing, but it just resets a bit later.

jlow (posted 2013-06-06 14:29:00.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: We will get in contact with you directly on troubleshooting this and possibly sending this back for evaluation.

marco.cammarata (posted 2013-04-24 04:14:55.51)

Do you have any idea about the damage threshold for the MC* blades for nanosecond pulses ? I would like to send a ~1W beam (few mm^2 area) on the wheel but - of course - I don't want to damage it. Thanks, marco

tcohen (posted 2013-04-25 16:27:00.0)

Response from Tim at Thorlabs to Marco: The chopper blades are blued clock spring steel nominally .010” thick. The blade itself is not meant for high power applications but we have not tested the damage threshold with ns pulses.

dursch (posted 2013-02-06 13:49:02.57)

Our MC200 seems to run uncontrollable, meaning the chopper is always on. I have tried updating the firmware to the newest version, but that didn't help. Any suggestions on how to remedy this problem.

jlow (posted 2013-02-06 16:41:00.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: We will contact you directly to troubleshoot this issue.

orich (posted 2013-01-27 12:06:59.47)

Do you have chopper blades with duty factor smaller than 0.5. This is very useful for average smaller light intensity but with high quasi CW light intensity.

tcohen (posted 2012-09-24 09:17:00.0)

Response from Tim at Thorlabs: Thank you for pointing this out! While we are fixing this please reference the following values: MC1F2 = 0; MC1F6 = 1; MC1F10 = 2; MC1F15 = 3; MC1F30 = 4; MC1F60 = 5; MC1F100 = 6; MC2F57 = 7

martin.fertl (posted 2012-09-21 07:38:36.0)

To whom it may concern, in section 6.3 of the manual the command "blade=n". The number n is said to be found in section 6.5.2. But neither in the printed nor in the pdf version of the manual this section exists. Can you please add this information to the manual. Thank you very much

jlow (posted 2012-08-27 17:12:00.0)

Response from Jeremy at Thorlabs: The maximum frequency for the REF IN is 10kHz.

schoeps (posted 2012-08-27 12:58:41.0)

What maximum frequency is allowed as ref-in? Will I be able to use my 30kHz signal?

tcohen (posted 2012-07-19 15:29:00.0)

Response from Tim at Thorlabs: Thank you for contacting us. The new blade was introduced around 12/2011. Devices with firmware <= 3.10 should be updated to the latest firmware to make use of phase control on the 2-slot blade. There were many improvements with this firmware update including reduced jitter to most blades. However, please note that the previous blade design is incompatible with >=3.11 firmware. To determine your edition of hardware and firmware, you can attempt to update the firmware as indicated on the “Software Downloads” tab. To determine your blade edition, you can check for the outer rim which is a characteristic of the new design. I will contact you directly to continue this conversation, but we will also make this information more visible on the web.

jcanseco (posted 2012-07-19 16:54:29.0)

In your catalog, I saw that the MC1F2 blade was updated as follows: "Please note the MC1F2 two-slot blade has been updated to a newer version. This new blade is only compatible with units that have firmware version 3.11 and later. For all older firmware versions, the old-style blade must be used. This blade is not backwards compatible. " When was this update made? What is the better properties of this new wheel? Better phase-locking or phase stability? If I purchased a MC1F2 in 2009, is it an old-style blade? I am having a problem with the phase stability with MC1F2, while one of my colleagues does not with the same setup. I guess he bought it in 2010 or 2011. Could it be due to the update of the blade?

tcohen (posted 2012-07-05 14:12:00.0)

Response from Tim at Thorlabs to Vasili: Thank you for contacting us! Devices with the 1.0 series of firmware must have a free hardware upgrade in order to use the new firmware. The firmware upgrader on the web will be replaced with a newer version soon. If there is any hardware incompatibility, this new version will provide this information along with instructions for inquiring about our free hardware upgrade.

vasili.savitski (posted 2012-07-04 16:10:33.0)

Dear Sir/Madam, We have recently purchased an MC1F100 blade to use it with our MC2000 chopper driver. Unfortunately it’s appeared that there is no such blade in the menu of the driver. We tried to update the software of MC2000 to newer version available at your web site (3.11), but update failed: ”hardware allows you to update only to version 1.05”. But we were not able to update even to this 1.05 version. So, could you please help us with this issue and explain how to use the blade MC1F100 with MC2000? We haven’t been informed on your web site that this blade can only be used only with the certain version of the software and therefore believe that this issue should be solved by you. Best regards, Vasili.

bdada (posted 2012-03-27 13:07:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs to customers that have experienced problems installing drivers: One common reason driver installations fail is because users do not have administrative privileges. Administrative privileges allow users to modify essential software in the computer. Starting with Windows Vista, programs which require administrative access to a user's machine must also first ask for and receive approval through the "User Account Control" dialog. Starting with Windows Vista, users will typically receive a notification of failure when a program requests but does not receive administrative access. In some cases (and especially on Windows XP), these programs will "silently fail" - that is, the program will fail to properly execute but users will not be notified. If you have problems installing a driver, please verify you have administrative rights and then try installing it again. Please contact TechSupport@thorlabs.com if you have any questions.

bdada (posted 2012-03-13 11:41:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs to chong.li: Thank you for your feedback. We are working on providing more guidance on our website regarding this issue. To confirm the drivers have been properly installed, we would like you to use HyperTerminal to test if you can communicate with the MC2000. Note that Hyper Terminal is only available on Windows Operating Systems older than Windows 7. We have sent you instructions for how to set up the HyperTerminal and test the MC2000. Thank you again for your feedback. We have contacted you with more information and will provide more information here soon.

chong.li (posted 2012-03-09 05:30:50.0)

Hi There, I believe I have successfully installed the USB driver in my laptop but there isn't any response when I connect the USB cable from the powered-on chopper controller to my laptop. Can you please suggest any solutions? Thanks!

chong.li (posted 2012-03-08 06:07:54.0)

Hi there, I have suffered the same problem as pavulurisumanth did. Can you please post the solution to the public instead contact individuals in order to save any followers time? Many thanks!

bdada (posted 2011-11-14 23:46:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs: Thank you for your feedback. We have contacted you to troubleshoot the problem.

pavulurisumanth (posted 2011-11-12 16:08:56.0)

Hi, I have a similar problem as for "zhoujw321". The USB driers do not install and and after MC2000 is attached to the PC, I couldnt see any response. Could you help me to solve this problem? Thank you.

bdada (posted 2011-08-23 12:43:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs: Thank you very much for your feedback. Unfortunately, the REF OUT cannot be set to other frequencies. The possible options are listed on Page 10 of the manual: http://www.thorlabs.com/Thorcat/18400/18488-D02.pdf Please contact TechSupport@thorlabs.com if you have further questions or wish to discuss your application.

tomy (posted 2011-08-23 10:25:38.0)

Dear Sir,Mme It is possible while spinning the chopper blade at a frequency f to set the REF OUTPUT signal to other frequency as reference signal for lock-in detection, for example 2f or 5f?

bdada (posted 2011-08-22 18:34:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs: Thank you for your feedback. We have contacted you to set up a return of your unit for an upgrade.

jkim5 (posted 2011-08-22 11:44:43.0)

I have a problem when running MC2000 with MC1F2 wheel. When I run at a low frequency, for example, at 4 Hz, the jitter is huge (with the standard deviation in the display at 1.5 Hz). It becomes worse when I raise the chopper frequency with the standard deviation reaching up to 10 Hz at 25 Hz. As an effort to fix this problem, I tried to upgrade the firmware, but it does not improve. BTW, the firmware version I could upgrade to was 1.03. How can I upgrade to higher version of firmware? Do I have ship the unit back to Thorlabs, as written in the software downloads? If thats the case, I need to rent a demo version, otherwise my experiment have to be stopped.

bdada (posted 2011-07-28 20:03:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs: Thank you for your feedback. We ran your setup here at Thorlabs and found the same issue. We believe this could be a firmware problem with the PID settings and are currently working to resolve this. To optimize the motor to the console at this frequency, returning the unit may be advisable. In any case, a software upgrade will probably be required. Please contact TechSupport@thorlabs.com with any questions.

gerald.auboeck (posted 2011-07-26 21:09:18.0)

Hi. I just bought a MC2000 together with a MC1F100 blade for chopping at high frequencies. I need to chop a beam phase locked to an external reference at about 9.5 KHz. However, locking does not work (the controller says it is locked, but watching the reference signal directly and the actual output of the chopper it is clearly not). When I try for testing to lock at about 5kHz it locks but has a huge jitter (~10°) and goes out of lock every now and then. I would need this running quite urgently so it would be great if this can be solved fastly, Gerald

jjurado (posted 2011-06-16 08:39:00.0)

Response from Javier at Thorlabs to alsturl: The PLL locks to the rising edge of the external reference signal when the chopper is driven in external reference mode. Please contact us at techsupport@thorlabs.com if you have any further questions or comments.

alsturl (posted 2011-06-10 16:50:43.0)

Hi. Does the PLL lock to the rising edge or the falling edge of an external reference TTL signal? Thanks in advance.

jjurado (posted 2011-05-26 18:14:00.0)

Response from Javier at Thorlabs to : kudayakumar85: Thank you very much for contacting us with your request. Here are my comments: (1) Manufacturing a custom blade - This would require a modification to the control software and firmware of the controller. I will contact you directly to discuss this a bit further. (2) Chopping a 1 cm diameter beam - One possible solution is to use an optical relay system to reduce and re-expand the beam. (3) Using a chopper wheel from a different company - The same answer as (1) applies. I will get in touch with you to discuss your application.

kudayakumar85 (posted 2011-05-26 04:36:47.0)

Hi I am going to purchase MC2000 optical chopper. For nonlinear operation you have 5/7 blade.But i need to chop the light with high frequency in kHz range.Can i get custom built blade from your company? 2. If i want to chop the 1cm dia light beam,at maximum up to what frequency can i chop. Is there any formula available to calculate relating diameter of the beam and frequency of chop. 3. And also i am having chopper blade of 30(outer)/3(inner)blade from perkin elmer company which we bought long ago. shall i use it with your optical chopper mc2000. 4. We have lockin amplifier also to sync the signal with optical chopper model. Thank you regards Udayakumar k

bdada (posted 2011-04-29 15:22:00.0)

Response from Buki at Thorlabs: Thank you very much for your feedback. We have contacted you to troubleshoot the issue.

zhoujw321 (posted 2011-04-28 15:20:03.0)

Hi, I have some trouble with installing the USB driver. When I had inserted the CD and installed drivers, there were no onscreen prompts that I could follow. After the MCLS was attached to the PC, I couldnt see any respond. Could you help me solve this problem? Thank you.

bdada (posted 2011-03-07 13:06:00.0)

Response from Buki: Thank you for your feedback, Alex. We are currently testing a new software version for the MC2000 that will resolve the phase control issue and improve the jitter. When you stop scrolling through the menus, the unit will relock with a consistent phase. The firmware will be field upgradable and will not require the unit to come back to Thorlabs. We will contact you shortly with the expected availability of the new software.

alex.barker (posted 2011-03-06 23:37:25.0)

Hi, Im having trouble with the MC1F2 blade. I want to lock to an external ref (~60 Hz say), with N=1 & D=2 so that the chopping freq = 30Hz, with an adjustable phase offset. I then want to lock other instruments to the 30Hz signal. This is working wonderfully with the MC1F10 blade, using the "target out" reference. However, using the MC1F2 (and "Inner ref out") the lock exhibits a lot of jitter, and the phase control has no effect. In fact, simply scrolling through menus has the effect of making the phase of the blades move around, locking to a random phase once I stop scrolling through the menus. Firmware is up to date. I would love it if you could provide any useful advice! Thanks, Alex

tor (posted 2010-12-13 13:40:00.0)

Response from Tor at Thorlabs to Phil: We believe that this difficulty may result from adding a space between the "I" command and the desired frequency. For example, to set the frequency to 200, you should send I200, not I 200.

phillip.springer (posted 2010-12-09 08:03:12.0)

Hi. Im having trouble with the MC1000A Chopper. Which command do I have to send via serial port to set, for example, the internal frequency? By sending R via VISA the motor starts and stops like it should. But with command I 200 it does not set the internal frequency to 200Hz. The manual is not very helpful with that. Regards, Phil

apalmentieri (posted 2009-12-28 09:44:44.0)

A response from Adam at Thorlabs: The MC2000 internal frequency command can be controlled directly by Labview, using the RS232 ASCII commands. To set the frequency you can use the command, Set Frequency(syntax: freq=n), which will set the desired internal frequency. All of the commands can be found on page 15 of the manual. I will send you the list of commands via email as well.

letter (posted 2009-12-27 21:32:56.0)

Hi. Can I directly control an internal frequency of this MC2000 with using the "LabVIEW"? Moreover, is the firmware update completed? I could see a story about the way to know the real frequency from posted comments below. I am waiting for your response. Regards, lukas.

jens (posted 2009-11-30 08:45:17.0)

A reply from Jens at Thorlabs: the delay does not indicate any issue. The message was used during the testing phase and does not provide any meaningful information at this point anymore. It will be removed in the new firmware version. Sorry for the confusion this message caused.

piotr.wojtczuk (posted 2009-11-26 05:16:45.0)

Hi, Thanks for a prompt response. Only after posting the message did I realise that the S:... messages are followed by Locked/Not Locked info. Is it normal for these messages to appear after a considerable delay? It usually takes about 5 - 10 of these s:... messages to obtain the lock/no lock information. Can this indicate a problem with the controller?

jens (posted 2009-11-25 19:36:58.0)

A reply from Jens at Thorlabs: you are right that it is currently not possible to access the feedback frequency. Our development team is however in the process of releasing a new firmware version and based on your feedback they will include this feature. The "S:300,200" message was used by the programers for internal testing purposes, it will be removed with the update. As soon as the new version is available I will contact you, the update can be done easily at your side by uploading the new version via USB.

piotr.wojtczuk (posted 2009-11-25 16:10:19.0)

Hi, When working with internal reference, is there any possibility to read the feedback frequency (rather than internal reference frequency) on the USB interface? I have been trying to achieve this, but there is no way I can redirect the actual frequency to be output via freq or input command. It would be useful, as I would like to know, when the frequency has stabilised after it has been set. Also I was not able to find any reference to the regular output from the chopper like: "S: 300, 200". Could you explain this to me? Regards, Piotr

klee (posted 2009-10-09 17:57:40.0)

A reponse from Ken at Thorlabs to orich: Thank you for your feedback. Your suggestion has been forwarded to our engineering group for consideration.

orich (posted 2009-10-08 16:03:07.0)

I am interested in having an optical chopper blade with dual frequency, higher than that of the 7/5 blade. The 60/53 blade offered by Scitec is ideal. What are the prospects of getting such blades from Thorlabs. Best wishes Ori

klee (posted 2009-10-05 14:44:10.0)

A response from Ken at Thorlabs: Thank you for pointing out the mistake. It will be corrected shortly.

invalid (posted 2009-10-05 13:59:22.0)

Units for impedance are displayed incorrectly; input, output impedance are not measured in "W".

Tyler (posted 2009-03-10 08:30:26.0)

A response from Tyler at Thorlabs to H. Deuser: I forwarded your drawing request to our tech support department. They will be in contact with you later today. If we can help in any other way, please let us know.

hannes.deuser (posted 2009-03-09 16:57:05.0)

Dear Sir or Madame, some time ago we purchased a MC1000A Chopper system. Now we would like to have, in addition to the existing drawings on your wepage, a technical drwaing of driving(controlling unit of this chopper system (parasolid or step). Thank you best regards, H. Deuser - ISC Konstanz

Greg (posted 2009-01-29 17:15:25.0)

A response from Greg at Thorlabs to M.Justus: Your MC100A needs to be recalibrated in order to perform properly. The unit should stay locked when you change N and D. Please check your e-mail so that we can proceed to get your unit working properly.

M.Justus (posted 2009-01-27 10:27:52.0)

We experience locking problems for external synchronization. Our current Setup: MC1000A with Blade MC1F30, external frequency 800Hz from another PLL. If we use N/D=1/1 no problem, but any other divider ratio is unstable (unlocking every few seconds), especially odd values. Do you have lab experience which reference phase jitter can be tolerated at what frequency and divider ratio?

Laurie (posted 2008-09-10 16:52:02.0)

Response from Laurie at Thorlabs to lighthonr: The optical head assembly for the MC1000A can be purchased (Item MC1000A-ASSY5). Someone from our technical support staff will contact you shortly with current pricing information.

lighthonr (posted 2008-09-09 19:14:44.0)

I was wondering what is the price for the choppers motor only? I have the chopper controller but the motor has been damaged beyond repair. Thanks!

rbladek (posted 2008-04-01 10:24:20.0)

To nees: Thank you for your post concerning the excessive phase jitter you are experiencing. Our engineer has been in contact with Fairchild Semiconductor, the manufacturer of the optical sensor, and have found that the sensor uses a Si detector with filter optimized for 880 – 940nm. In your case, we suspect the light level is high enough that the filter is not completely blocking the interference causing the jitter. Si detectors generally have a response from 400 to 1100nm with the peak response approximately 980nm. We have updated the operating manual with the above specifications and some mounting instructions to help limit this.

technicalmarketing (posted 2008-03-05 08:17:42.0)

To nees: Thank you for your suggestions for nother version of our MC1000A. We have passed those along to our electronics business unit for consideration. We always enjoy hearing about new product suggestions and ways to improve or expand our current product line.

nees (posted 2008-03-04 14:39:45.0)

The MC1000A produces significant jitter when I chop my 1kHz Ti:sapphire laser (1Watt of 1mJ 200fs pulses at 775nm with a 15nm bandwidth). If the head is placed forward the locking circuit fails. If I reverse the direction, it locks, but with +/-2 to 3 degrees jitter. When I look through the blades stroboscopically the jitter is less than 1 degree. So the 780nm light must be contaminating the sensor. Are there equivalent interrupt sensors at 950nm, like home remotes, with long-pass blinding filters built in? No luck getting specs at Fairchild... --John

larauz (posted 2007-07-27 14:22:36.0)

the MC1000A does not have a drawing. Also in general there is only the diagram of the blade but not of the complete system (as it is in the catalog page), therefore i can not see what plate type of plate is the chopper mounted on, distance between the plate slots, etc.

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